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On this episode of Ghost Hunters, Jason and Grant rush to help a child who is being bullied by a ghost.

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Sheets on the bed got really tight, like someone was holding them down.

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Definitely got to try to provoke tonight. Let's do it.

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But is TAPS dealing with an innocent soul, or is there something more sinister at play?

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There was a small boy who actually died in the house.

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And then Jason and Grant hunt for a shadow man in one of the most violent penitentiaries in the country.

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We've had a lot of deaths here over the years, a total of 998.

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I want to find this shadow guy. What was that?

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But will the spirits of the executed inmates lead them into a dead end?

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Son of a bitch! What's a friggin' padlock?

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I can't do it.

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Do you hear that? Oh my god!

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What? What?

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What?

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We got a case in Vermont. They purchased this house and did some renovations.

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And that started stirring up some stuff.

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They have everything from knockings and bangings to seeing a figure standing at the foot of her bed.

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The five-year-old would scream and cry at night saying, hey, you know, stay back, stay back.

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I got a five-year-old, so it's definitely one of those things that you worry about the kids.

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There's definitely cases that take precedence over others.

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Anything that has to do with the safety of a child, I think, is the most important case.

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Yeah, let's set it up. Let's do an ASAP.

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Okay. All right.

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If you have a case and we come in, Taps isn't going to charge you a dime.

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It's not like these people can call the cops and have them come and take care of the situation.

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Well, we're there for that.

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We want to help people. We want to be able to help everyone. The rich, the poor, you name it.

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Hey, Dion's already here for us, guys.

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There's Mike Dion.

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Mike Dion's been part of the Taps family for about five to six years.

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He actually runs New England Paranormal.

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He's a smart guy and he brings a lot with him to an investigation.

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Start setting up the van, guys, and we'll take it from there.

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Steve will go meet the homeowner.

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Hi, Livy.

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Hello.

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Hi, I'm Jason from Taps.

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Nice to meet you.

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How are you doing, Grant?

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Nice to meet you.

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This is Steve.

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Hi, Steve. How are you?

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Come on in.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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We decided to call Taps once this sort of turned into trying to make contact with our children.

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Our children were being affected by it.

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I thought it was obviously important enough to call Taps.

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So this is our daughter's bedroom.

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We have two girls.

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Our youngest sleeps here and our oldest sleeps up there.

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What kind of activity did actually happen?

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About two months ago, my husband's been sleeping in our daughter's grace's bed

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when our daughter wasn't feeling well.

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I was asleep in her bed and I heard voices and they were asking me to wake up

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and they kept asking me where my daughter was.

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So as I was trying to figure out if this was me dreaming this or what,

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they started poking me.

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They kept telling me where's Grace and I answered them that, you know,

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Grace was sick and she wasn't in bed.

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I was her dad and he'd leave me alone.

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Then the sheets on the bed got really tight.

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Like someone was holding them down and the bed started moving.

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Like people were jumping up and down the bed.

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I just said, look, you're really scaring the hell out of me.

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Please stop.

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And they laughed and they stopped.

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And Grace had been telling us that these fairies were visiting her at nighttime.

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They'd wake her up by sort of wiggling her nose and then they'd play

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ring around the rosy or they'd sit on the floor and do puzzles.

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Interesting.

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Has anything happened with your younger daughter?

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No, nothing's happened with our younger daughter.

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It's only been the five-year-old.

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It's only been our five-year-old.

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All right, so where to from here?

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We can go into our bedroom, which is just down this hall over here.

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After you.

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We've had a couple different things happen in here.

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We've seen that apparition of the old woman who walks from right about here

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right over through that wall.

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Was she as clear as we are now?

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Was it a sense of...

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Pretty clear.

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It's sort of white and she's wearing like a period dress.

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Is that the only thing that's really happening here?

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I sort of felt something sort of odd in this section over here.

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I looked up and there was sort of a, about this tall, sort of a black figure.

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Oh, come on.

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Again.

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We get those all the time.

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Yeah, it was sort of just a black figure.

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And as I was trying to focus it just very quickly, just shot underneath the bed.

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The activities she was describing, we have seen before many times.

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Some people call it shadow people.

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Personally, we tend to believe that it's just a way that a spirit can manifest itself.

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So are the kids tonight?

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Are they going to be sleeping here?

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The kids and our dogs are over at their grandparents' house spending the night.

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All right.

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Steve's going to go down and talk to the rest of the TAPS members.

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We're just going to start running just all our equipment off of the house.

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Okay, great.

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All right.

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Well, after you.

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Okay.

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Up until we moved in the house, I did not believe in paranormal happenings.

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Since we've moved into the house, we've had so many unusual things happen.

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I would have to say there's no logical explanation for it.

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And I'd like to see TAPS actually capture something on tape.

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I would like other people to see what we've experienced.

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If we could get a camera right there so that we can get this part of the room down the hall.

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The stories here are fascinating and they're coming from very down-to-earth people.

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So that really intrigues me and I just want to help.

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I want to get to the bottom of it.

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In this room, we want to cover the bed area.

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Now with this one tango, you want to go right a little bit.

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Okay, Steve.

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Yep, it's perfect.

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Everything's up and running?

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We've got five cameras set up.

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The two in the children's room, the parents' room covered, and two cameras in the kitchen.

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The whole place is covered.

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They all look pretty good.

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So let's go dark.

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Let's do this.

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All right, this is where the action went down.

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Drop this down?

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Yeah.

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Grace is here.

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She wants to play.

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Pretty much this is the place where her husband was laying face down in the bed.

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And the sheets were pulled taut over him.

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The kids were playing in the bed.

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They kept on asking where Grace was and pulled the sheets down tight.

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So he was like locked in.

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That would be scary, man.

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What's pretty spooky about the whole thing is the fact that if it is children, they're

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being awfully defiant doing that to an adult.

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Come on, I thought you wanted to play with Grace.

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We'll play with you.

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Play with us.

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What was that noise?

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What noise?

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I thought I heard it's almost like a laugh.

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When you actually catch a sound like laughter or a voice or somebody calling your name,

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it makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

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It's a little startling because there's nobody around.

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And so the fact that Grace is here makes the hair on the back stand up a little.

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And the hair on the back stands up.

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It's a little startling because there's nobody around.

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And so the next thing that happens is that you actually have a huge, big, large, big

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and there's usually nothing in the area

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that you heard the sound from.

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I'll make yourself known.

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Alright, Tango, this is the master bedroom.

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I'm gonna start with the AMF.

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0.2.

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Getting about a 0.5 is a base reading.

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Steve, do you really find AMF to be helpful in investigating?

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Of course.

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What do you think

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spirits are?

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Energy.

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What does this pick up?

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Energy.

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If it's true that spirits are energy,

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that energy will disrupt the electromagnetic field,

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and that's what we're picking up.

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This is Steve and Dave Tango,

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master bedroom.

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Is there anybody in here with us?

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What's your name?

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One of the best ways to hear things

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and just get a sense of the room

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is to stop, sit down,

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open your eyes and ears and just

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feel the room.

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I just felt like the bed up here shook for a second.

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Shook? How bad?

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Well, enough that my body shook on it, but...

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Really?

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I was laying on the bed in the girls' room,

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and I felt a distinct shake of the bed.

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It only lasted a brief second or two,

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and I was there.

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I just went back and forth.

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Did it feel like it actually moved?

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No, it just felt like it went like this.

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Like that, really.

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Okay, is that a matte?

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This stuff doesn't move.

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I mean, do you even feel in that, really?

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So if you felt something, then it was the mattress moving,

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which is unique.

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We can attribute it to something other than the structure of the house.

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Well, it definitely moved.

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I guess what I'm saying is if it was something

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affecting the walls of the floor,

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the bed wouldn't have moved because this stuff doesn't move.

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Yeah, I feel it on here.

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See what I'm saying?

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When you get a personal experience like the bed shaking,

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you can't automatically label it as evidence of the paranormal.

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So all the more reason to thoroughly check the DVR

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during the evidence review.

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Hey, Mike. Hey, Lisa.

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Lisa is the personnel manager for TAPS.

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She's a great person, a great investigator,

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and she's a great addition to the TAPS team.

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Hey, it's getting extremely late,

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so we're gonna probably wrap up real soon.

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Okay.

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So why don't you two, if you want, try to head up to the kid's room

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and try to provoke a little.

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All right, yeah.

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Let us know what happens, right?

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Okay, cool. Thanks.

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A lot of times we try to provoke a spirit.

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We try to provoke the spirit is we want it to manifest itself,

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to show itself, to move an object,

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to do something to help solidify the client's claims

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that they have a spirit in their home.

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We're getting the feeling from whoever this is in here

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that you're not who you claim to be.

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If you're pretending to be little girls

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and you're using that as a way to get yourself in

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and ingratiate yourself with little girls that live in this house,

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you need to show yourself to us.

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We want to know your real name.

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Are you getting anything up there?

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No, how about you?

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When you were asking those questions,

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I wasn't feeling comfortable down here.

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I just got such an uneasy feeling.

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I did this. I pulled my legs in almost, like, to protect myself.

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You know, that concerns me.

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Because if you're feeling vulnerable

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and you're feeling nervous

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and feeling like you have to protect yourself,

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what about the little girls that sleep in this room?

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I felt almost, like, claustrophobic.

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And I've never felt this on the case before.

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If it lasted two more seconds, I was ready to get up and get out of the room.

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I just did not feel comfortable.

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Whoever this is, I don't care who you claim to be.

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You come out here and you show yourself.

258
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I want you to come out now.

259
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I'm thinking it's almost 4 a.m. time to wrap it.

260
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Yeah.

261
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Get a lot of evidence to go over, so...

262
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a lot of footage, a lot of video, audio, everything.

263
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All right, well, let's break it down.

264
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We just tried to do a quiet so we don't wake up the neighbors.

265
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Okay.

266
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I think the investigation tonight went really well.

267
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We had a couple of personal experiences.

268
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Me and Grant, you know, both thought we had heard

269
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some whispers and some talking while we were upstairs in the bedroom.

270
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But we really just got to go through all the evidence

271
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and find out, you know, take it from there.

272
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Whether we caught something on audio or video,

273
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I don't know. We'll find that out.

274
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But it was just a very, very weird experience that I had in that room.

275
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All right, well, we're pretty much calling it a night.

276
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Okay.

277
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What we're gonna do is go over the evidence over the next few days

278
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and come back, sit down, let you know what we found, what we didn't find.

279
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Okay, great.

280
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Well, thanks again for coming out. I appreciate it.

281
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Thanks for having us, son.

282
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You take care.

283
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It's nice to meet you both.

284
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It's nice to meet you both.

285
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If you need anything before, then you give us a call.

286
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You got to know them.

287
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Yeah, I will.

288
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What do you think, man?

289
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It was interesting. A lot of interesting things.

290
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The little personal experiences.

291
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Yeah.

292
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They may be fruitful.

293
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They're just creepy.

294
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Good experiences.

295
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Yeah.

296
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But the main thing we need to do is try to figure out

297
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what's going on in that house

298
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and try to help this family and these children.

299
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Yep.

300
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Ready to get home?

301
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Yes, big time.

302
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I'm telling you, when I, with the help of Mike Dion,

303
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are getting ready to review the evidence for the Johnson family house,

304
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we have a lot of stuff to go over.

305
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So I'm really happy he's here to lend us a hand.

306
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Hey, guys.

307
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Yes?

308
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,000
Yeah.

309
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Listen to this for a second.

310
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You can hear Steve talking, and it sounds like,

311
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I don't know, like a little girl.

312
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We tell them there's nothing here.

313
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Then you're not going to be bothering them any longer.

314
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Then you're not going to be bothering them any more.

315
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Whoa.

316
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000
Mm-hmm.

317
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That's creepy.

318
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What do you got for us, Steve?

319
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Well, you guys remember this case, of course.

320
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We were looking for, you know, video of the apparitions they supposedly seen,

321
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and we're listening for voices of children.

322
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Yep.

323
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Um, video came clean.

324
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And, um, I had nothing on DVR.

325
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And, um...

326
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What did you make of the piece with you, with the bed getting moved?

327
00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000
I saw that piece, but you don't see anything weird,

328
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nothing anomalous before or even after that.

329
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I spent some time on the bed and never moved.

330
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What do we got audio-wise?

331
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We have two audio clips to play for you.

332
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I think you guys will like these.

333
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Because if we tell them there's nothing here,

334
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000
then you're not going to be bothering them any longer.

335
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Sounds really close to the mic.

336
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Do you guys react to it at all?

337
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No, we didn't react at all to it,

338
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which means it wasn't coming from an outside source.

339
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000
Where was this? Was this up in their bedroom?

340
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000
Yes. This was, I believe, in the master bedroom.

341
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000
Play that again.

342
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000
Sure.

343
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:13,000
Talk to us first, because if we tell them there's nothing here,

344
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000
then you're not going to be bothering them any more.

345
00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000
It's just saying Jason.

346
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Tango and I think it says, um, who's Jason?

347
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,000
Like saying, who's Jason?

348
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000
Well, that's Jason. We know that, but...

349
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That's wild. That's really close to the mic and clear.

350
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000
It sounds like there's no way that could be from another room.

351
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000
We have another one we could play for you.

352
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000
What's your name?

353
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No, no, no, no.

354
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It's just like right out of a horrible movie.

355
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It's freaking creepy.

356
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,000
What's your name?

357
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

358
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000
Well, there are no kids in the house.

359
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Yeah.

360
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The only females that were there were Lisa and Libby.

361
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I don't know if you guys want to play this for her.

362
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It could maybe frighten her a little more.

363
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000
I don't know. We got to put a good spin on it.

364
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000
Well, we got to play what we found.

365
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000
There's definitely some creepy AVPs.

366
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000
It makes us a copy of it. We'll listen to it with her.

367
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000
Hey, guys.

368
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,000
Good to see you again.

369
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000
Good to see you too.

370
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000
It's a pleasure.

371
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000
Oh, sorry.

372
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000
How are you?

373
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000
Good.

374
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Well, you know what we did? We came in, we heard the claims of activity.

375
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You had had an experience that wasn't won by any means in your child's room.

376
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000
Your five-year-old daughter has had experiences in the home

377
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000
dealing with what appears to be children entities.

378
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,000
You guys have witnessed what appears to be an older lady

379
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walking right through your bedroom.

380
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000
So we came in, we heard those stories.

381
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We ended up setting up equipment that we brought with us.

382
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Everything from a digital video recording system

383
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to zero lux cameras to see total darkness.

384
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We covered the whole house and we covered it for the entire night while we were here.

385
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Of course, we were up there looking for any kind of sign

386
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of any kind of manifestation from these entities.

387
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,000
While we were up there, there was an experience, a small thing Jay had, right?

388
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,000
Yeah, while I was laying on your daughter's bed on the second floor,

389
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at one point I felt a quick shake.

390
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It felt like the mattress itself shook.

391
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So I really can't draw any conclusions from it.

392
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It was just a little thing.

393
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000
Also, we both heard just very faintly some kind of whispering up there.

394
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000
It was about it.

395
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Stuff we can't really back up too much,

396
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000
but we did try and shake the bed after Jay did.

397
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And the frame of the bed is very solid, but the mattress moves easily.

398
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So if something natural shook the bed and not supernatural,

399
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it would have had to have shaken the mattress rather than the frame of the bed.

400
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000
Actually, we did some research on the home and we're able to pull up some information.

401
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000
Not sure if you're familiar, but there was a young boy, he was six,

402
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000
who had passed away in this home.

403
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000
I didn't know that either.

404
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000
We really didn't catch anything on the video side.

405
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,000
We do have a couple pieces of audio that we would like you guys to listen to

406
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000
and maybe you can let us know if it sounds familiar enough.

407
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000
Okay.

408
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000
So these were both caught ironically in the master bedroom.

409
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And none of your children were here that night.

410
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
They both spent the night out.

411
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Here we go. Here's the first one.

412
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000
What's your name?

413
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000
What's your name?

414
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000
You all right?

415
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000
Yeah.

416
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000
You want to hear it again?

417
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000
Yeah.

418
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000
All right. Here we go.

419
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000
So that EVP was captured in the master bedroom.

420
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000
Correct.

421
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000
Okay.

422
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000
It sort of sounds like a little kid humming.

423
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,000
Kind of like a little playful, playful noise.

424
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000
Yeah.

425
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000
Now you hear that humming.

426
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000
Is it anything similar to what you heard that night?

427
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000
Well, something, yeah.

428
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,000
I mean, I'm not going to say that's the exact same, but yeah.

429
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000
It sounds young.

430
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000
Well, we've got another EVP we'd like you to hear.

431
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000
You're going to hear an investigator talk and then you'll hear something that doesn't belong.

432
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,000
Because if we tell them there's nothing here,

433
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000
then you're not going to be bothering them anymore.

434
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000
Can we hear that again, please?

435
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
Sure.

436
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000
Okay. Did you catch it?

437
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000
Yeah.

438
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,000
What does it sound like it's saying to you?

439
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000
Chase us.

440
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000
Yeah. I think it sounds more like who's Jason.

441
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,000
Yeah.

442
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000
Why are they asking that?

443
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000
I mean, obviously this is Jason in the house.

444
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000
Right.

445
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000
If they talk about him, we don't know.

446
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000
That's interesting.

447
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000
How do these EVPs make you feel?

448
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000
I think that adds credence to what we've been saying.

449
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,000
I know there are things that go on in this house that are not normal,

450
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000
that are definitely paranormal.

451
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000
I mean, we've had too many things happen.

452
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000
So it's just sort of startling.

453
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000
It's, you know, sort of, pfft.

454
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Now you had a particularly amazing experience here in the house.

455
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000
Do you feel that that experience was different from what your daughter's going through?

456
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000
Like maybe they had some malintent or anything like that?

457
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000
Even though it really scared me a lot,

458
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:54,000
I don't feel that they were doing anything to try to scare me or anything.

459
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000
I think they were just trying to get my attention.

460
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,000
We definitely don't feel in any way that it's a threat to you or the children or anybody in the home.

461
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000
Okay. Thank you.

462
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,000
As your daughter grows up, she will grow out of it and get interested in other things.

463
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000
And it'll stop.

464
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000
You know, the entity might get a little bit upset or jealous or sad that she's being ignored.

465
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,000
And you might have a little burst of activity before it totally ends.

466
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,000
When it really comes down to it, you know, your daughter's found a friend.

467
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000
They found a friend in your daughter and so forth.

468
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,000
That's cool.

469
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,000
But we want you guys to understand that our phones are on 24-7 for you.

470
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000
You can call us anytime.

471
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000
If there's any concerns, we can be up here in a blink of an eye.

472
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Okay.

473
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000
But we really appreciate you guys having us.

474
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Thank you. Thank you for coming out.

475
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000
You've been wonderful.

476
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,000
We appreciate it.

477
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000
Thank you very much.

478
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000
Hey, thank you.

479
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:49,000
When I heard the EVPs, a little unsettling, but not scary.

480
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,000
We're very content living with this presence in this house because like we said before,

481
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000
we don't feel that it's any negative.

482
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000
It's not a bad thing.

483
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,000
It actually adds more character to this house.

484
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000
All in all, I think the family's happy with the findings.

485
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000
They're happy with our investigation.

486
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000
And wonder if they need us.

487
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Absolutely.

488
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
24-7.

489
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
I think that it's going to take time.

490
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:18,000
You got to sit there and watch this haunt and see how it changes and just see where it goes.

491
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Right.

492
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000
We want to be there for them the safety net in case it gets worse.

493
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000
Good job, man.

494
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000
Good job to you.

495
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Hey, what's going on?

496
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000
Hey guys, how are you?

497
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000
What do you got?

498
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Oh, have I got a case for you guys?

499
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Endless.

500
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000
We're talking 5 blocks by 2 blocks deep.

501
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000
The prison was built in 1876 for 800 prisoners.

502
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000
It swelled up to over 2000.

503
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000
You're talking 3 men and 5 by 7 foot cells.

504
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,000
During its history, they had about 86 hangings.

505
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000
9 executions by the electric chair.

506
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Hangings?

507
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Hangings.

508
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
On the gallows.

509
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
1955?

510
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
1951.

511
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000
In 1915?

512
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000
No, no.

513
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000
In 1915, we had about 800 prisoners.

514
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
We had about 200 prisoners.

515
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,000
1955?

516
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000
1951, actually.

517
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Can you believe that?

518
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000
I know.

519
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000
The prisoners believe that if people died there, that their souls were trapped in the prison.

520
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
So what kind of activity were you looking at?

521
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000
Let me show you what I have here.

522
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000
One of the more compelling apparitions is of this shadow man.

523
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000
You can see him down at the end of the hall here.

524
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,000
You can't see through him, but he darts in and out of the prison halls.

525
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,000
What's really eerie about this prison is not only were there hangings and electric cutions,

526
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
but a lot of men were murdered here by their fellow inmates.

527
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000
A lot of violence took place.

528
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000
So this is a place where a lot of death happened.

529
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
It's right up this block, right?

530
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000
Whoa, whoa.

531
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000
Look at that.

532
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,000
When you pull up to the place, it kind of sneaks up on you, and it's like instant intimidation.

533
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000
Everything makes you want to turn around and go the other way.

534
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000
And my first thoughts were, I don't want to go in there.

535
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000
Can you imagine actually being brought in here knowing you're going to be here for the next 20 years?

536
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000
That's when I'd be eating the razor wire.

537
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Let's go check this out.

538
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000
I never ever, ever want to be in one of these places.

539
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Hey, Mike.

540
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Hi.

541
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000
I'm Jason Gattap.

542
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000
Jason.

543
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Great.

544
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Welcome to the West Virginia Penitentiary.

545
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Let's take a look around, shall we?

546
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Sounds good.

547
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Happy seeing you.

548
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Taps being here is a very good thing for all of us.

549
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:36,000
We've been told by numerous people, including several psychics, that guests, this place is haunted.

550
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000
And we've had multiple sightings here, so there has to be something to it.

551
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,000
I want to know for sure if it definitely is a haunted place.

552
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Now, we've had a lot of deaths here over the years, a total of 998,

553
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,000
and only 94 of those were actually executed by the state.

554
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000
So the inmates were killing each other?

555
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000
Oh, yeah, they were killing each other.

556
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000
They died of tuberculosis and influenza during the epidemics.

557
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Oh, wow.

558
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Now, you've heard of the Shatter Man, correct?

559
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Yeah, he said I'm good.

560
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Shatter Man was first seen by this door.

561
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
I remember seeing it in the picture.

562
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Now, he was right in here.

563
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Right in that area, generally.

564
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
That's awesome.

565
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000
Walking down the hallway, I'd heard a noise behind me.

566
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,000
I turned on my flashlight, and there was a shadow person walking toward me.

567
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Yes, I was scared.

568
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:31,000
I just yelled out, and I just aimed the camera, took one shot, and he just disappeared.

569
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000
We got to catch that Shatter Man.

570
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
So, where to now?

571
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000
We're headed to New Walnacks, which is mainline population.

572
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000
This is where they had the largest mainline housing unit here in the prison.

573
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,000
We have 320 cells inside this unit.

574
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000
How many people in a cell?

575
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Two men to a cell up until the 60s, and then after that, we had one man to a cell.

576
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Wow.

577
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Now, what kind of paranormal stuff happens around here? Anything?

578
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,000
We've had a lot of people claim that somebody was in a cell or something in the cell with them.

579
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
My husband had come down to photograph some pictures, and my husband said,

580
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000
there's a man down there at the end door, and I looked, but I didn't see anything.

581
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
He said, I'm telling you there's a man down there at the end door.

582
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Well, I knew that there wasn't anyone else in the building, and then I heard the end door close.

583
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000
He saw him, I heard him.

584
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000
All right, so where'd you... the hole?

585
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Okay, sweet.

586
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Fun. After you.

587
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000
This was the hole right here.

588
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
This is where they had the little dark cells.

589
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Back in the early 1900s, they had a lot of fights down here.

590
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Stabbings.

591
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
They could holler, they could scream, and nobody would hear them,

592
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
because they were clear outside the prison underground.

593
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Now, what kind of things go on down here?

594
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Paranormal activity-wise, anything?

595
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000
They've had a sighting down here as recently as this past fall.

596
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000
We were here in total darkness.

597
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000
I get the feeling that tells me that an entity is nearby.

598
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,000
I switched my camera on, and I filmed this apparition.

599
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000
It was such a shock, like, how can this be?

600
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000
I just can't describe how excited I was about it.

601
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Really want to say thank you for giving us a tour of my home.

602
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
You're welcome.

603
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
What we're going to do now is go meet up with the other guys

604
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
and start talking to them about the equipment,

605
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
getting them loaded and setting it up.

606
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Alrighty, sounds great.

607
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Get cracking.

608
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Let's go.

609
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
This building is huge. Huge.

610
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Pretty much go in there with the camera.

611
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
I hope you have an experience in documenting it.

612
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Steve, get the equipment set up.

613
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
I want to run the cameras for 12 hours.

614
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Okay.

615
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000
Show you.

616
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Great one.

617
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Let's do it.

618
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Come on.

619
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Ooh!

620
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
Oh!

621
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
You all right, brother?

622
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
There's that one shot first.

623
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000
You get yours before you need those anyway.

624
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Put some ice on it.

625
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Put some ice on it.

626
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Oh, man.

627
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000
This corridor supposedly they see a shadow person

628
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000
or shadow people.

629
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
A shadow people is a phenomena.

630
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000
A lot of researchers believe maybe they come from other dimensions.

631
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000
They're kind of humanoid figures.

632
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,000
We had taps.

633
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
I think they're just probably inhuman or restless human spirits.

634
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
So we're going to set this camera up on the end of the corridor here

635
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000
and shoot it towards the closer end of the hall.

636
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Because that's where the majority of the ports have happened.

637
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
This place is very big.

638
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Almost a thousand people died here.

639
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
And they're all violent people.

640
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
A lot of them got killed by their own inmates, you know?

641
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
And that just shows you there's a lot of bad vibrations in this place,

642
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000
which I hope leads to a more active phenomena.

643
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
That's what I'm hoping for.

644
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
You're like a scuffle in there.

645
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Really?

646
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Yeah.

647
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000
There's just noise in there.

648
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Brian and I were just talking some setup down in the left wing of Maxon Security here.

649
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
And I heard a whisper.

650
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000
And as we got closer, just when we're outside of cell number 13,

651
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
I heard some scuffling inside.

652
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
And we went inside.

653
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
There's nothing visible going on.

654
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
It'd have to be number 13 with a bunch of symbols in it.

655
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Mm-hmm.

656
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Just going to watch you. You heard it.

657
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Yeah, there's a whisper.

658
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
And there's something here just from a walk by.

659
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
It's kind of freaky that you hear a whisper and come up from number 13.

660
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,000
So maybe this is a little taste of some nice full-sized seven-course meals to come.

661
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Let's hope.

662
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Hey, what's up?

663
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Hey, these look great.

664
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,000
Are you like the angles?

665
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Yeah.

666
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000
OK.

667
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Wireless audio is all set to go.

668
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000
All right.

669
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Ready?

670
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Yeah.

671
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Let's do it.

672
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000
G and Grant heading into Maxon Security.

673
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
I want to find the shadow guy.

674
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Right G.

675
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
Oh, the air's kind of thick in here.

676
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000
We had a higher EMF-based reading in here.

677
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000
That's what I was just saying.

678
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
The air's really thick in here.

679
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
So we'll hold it down around here.

680
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
What was that?

681
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000
It sounded like a footsteps.

682
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
You heard it.

683
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Yes.

684
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Air's really thick in here.

685
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
What was that?

686
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
It was a high-end footsteps.

687
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
You heard it?

688
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Yes.

689
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Jay and I walked into the Maxon Security area and we started hearing banging here and there,

690
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
what sounded like a footsteps.

691
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000
We got to get to that side.

692
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Oh, son of a bitch with a dead end.

693
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
My back.

694
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
I'm going to get up there.

695
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
You got to get on the other side.

696
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
We got to get up.

697
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Get up.

698
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,000
We're hearing footsteps and other noises, but we're having a real hard time navigating in Maxon Security.

699
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Every time we chase the sounds, we've drawn into a padlock gate.

700
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000
It's a friggin' padlock.

701
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Padlock? Come on!

702
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000
You hearing that?

703
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Yeah.

704
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:57,000
This is the sugar shack, guys.

705
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,000
This was the area where they used to play poker and have all their recreational activities

706
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000
and it wasn't really monitored by the guards, so a lot of not-so-nice things would happen down here.

707
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Assaults, so-on raids.

708
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Can you find it tough to breathe?

709
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Yeah, it's getting harder and harder.

710
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
I never really had a personal experience.

711
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000
It's sort of spiritual to me.

712
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000
I sort of need it.

713
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000
I need to see it with my own eyes.

714
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,000
This is just the way I am.

715
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000
And it'll just answer questions that I've had my whole life.

716
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Watch a step.

717
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Watch a step.

718
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,000
It's getting kind of heavy in here, guys.

719
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000
Guys, I just saw something weird over here.

720
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000
You saw something?

721
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Yeah, I had my light like this, just straight against the wall.

722
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,000
And it looked like a mist, like not walked, but like floated right by it.

723
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000
It had a really weird shape to it.

724
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
So I just came around the corner here and I had my light on.

725
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000
It looked like there was some kind of mist, some kind of vapor that just kind of materialized

726
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
and moved across and kind of like an odd shape to it.

727
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000
What was that?

728
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
I swear to God, I heard somebody come in this way.

729
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Please, did you hear something or see something?

730
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,000
I heard something.

731
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
I heard something rustling in this room here.

732
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
I swear, I thought somebody was going to walk out of this room.

733
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
That's why I was freaked out.

734
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,000
We were walking through the Shugashack area back here and there was a doorway.

735
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,000
And I swear, I heard somebody on the other side and I was just waiting for somebody to walk on through.

736
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,000
And there wasn't anybody there.

737
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
We walked in and there was nobody there.

738
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
It just, it really freaked me out.

739
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Alright, man.

740
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Yeah, this is a video from a guy, Al Brinza.

741
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
He claims they caught an apparition in the West Virginia Petitantry.

742
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Alright, here we go.

743
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
This is what they supposedly caught.

744
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,000
The fact that it's wobbling means that it could probably be something that's supposed to be stationary there

745
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
and the wind moving it or something.

746
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
I don't know.

747
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,000
I'm seeing a head, what appears to almost be like a mustache or beard too.

748
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,000
But the only thing is the so-called body isn't moving with the head.

749
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Did you know that, son?

750
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Right. You know what it could be?

751
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
It could be something really close to the camera right here.

752
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
I think you're right.

753
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,000
The camera's compressing the foreground into the background to create an optical illusion.

754
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Alright, let's get out of here. Let's go back in.

755
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Jay and Grant in the hole.

756
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
It's a creepy looking place.

757
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000
It's sound like mumbling.

758
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Yeah, like two people.

759
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Yeah.

760
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Except from inside.

761
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Must be.

762
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Me and Grant were in the hole and there was a man who was gutted alive down there by about eight other people.

763
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
The air feels thick to you.

764
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Yeah, in this room, more than up there, dude.

765
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
It almost got like a ringing in my ears.

766
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Yeah, yeah, like a throbbing ring.

767
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
This is where he was found like, filleted.

768
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
He must have hated that guy.

769
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Felt pressure all over the side of your head.

770
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000
Right, which usually means something's gonna happen.

771
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000
When you're in the hole, you definitely get what feels like pressure pushing in on both sides of your head.

772
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,000
So that area definitely stood out to me as, you know, a possible hotspot in the pediatrics.

773
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
What the hell was that?

774
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000
You're in there.

775
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Yeah.

776
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Yeah.

777
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Yeah.

778
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
It sounded like it was coming from back in there.

779
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Mom, we're gonna let you around here somewhere. Let's friggin' do this.

780
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Did you hear what Sally was?

781
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Something moving.

782
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Yeah.

783
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
I think that might have been from up above us.

784
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
What's right above us is solitary.

785
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
We're going outside for a minute and then into the hole.

786
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,000
What's that?

787
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,000
The yellow?

788
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,000
That's us.

789
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
That's us.

790
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Reflecting off the glass.

791
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000
I guess you're just seeing people.

792
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
You should have something with the stairs off. Thank you.

793
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Dude, I told you I didn't speak English.

794
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000
That's for sure.

795
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000
We're on the stairs.

796
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
All right, Steve.

797
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Yeah.

798
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Down here, this is where the rat of the warden went to hide.

799
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,000
The warden had a rat?

800
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
No, some dude that ratted everybody out.

801
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Like you tell the warden everything that was going on.

802
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Yeah.

803
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
He was down here hiding and eight guys came down here and chipped them to death.

804
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
They hung his skin on the walls and everything.

805
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
He got his ass jacked up.

806
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000
This is Stephen Bryan in the hole looking for the shadow man.

807
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Anybody like you?

808
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Anybody like to speak with us tonight?

809
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
You the one that died in here?

810
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
If you're here with us, can you please give us a sign?

811
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Make a noise, maybe?

812
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
You know, I get a slightly higher spike in here for some reason.

813
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Do you?

814
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Well, it's like 0.2 or 0.3 out here, 0.5, 0.4.

815
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,000
I step in, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0, 0.9, 1.2.

816
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
I don't think there's any working power down here, is there?

817
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000
I don't think so.

818
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
High EMF readings can be caused by a number of things.

819
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Typically, it's unshielded power lines, faulty equipment.

820
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Also, we seem to have found that if there's an entity present,

821
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000
that can also give a high EMF reading.

822
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
The difference between those two is consistency.

823
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,000
If you have a consistent high EMF reading, then you know that it's something man-made.

824
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:17,000
If it's not consistent, if it comes and goes, then chances are it's something that you can't explain.

825
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000
Wait, there's something in here.

826
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000
All these pipes, Bryan, are giving out huge EMF.

827
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
It's got to be the metal.

828
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000
Oh well.

829
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Let's just hear that.

830
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Let's go try to debunk the shadow man in the hallway.

831
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,000
All right.

832
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:40,000
All right, so what I want to see is I want to stand so far to the door, have my IR going.

833
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,000
You get further behind me and walk, and let's see if we can recreate that from the IR reflection.

834
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Yeah, right, the IR shadow.

835
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000
It looks like he doesn't even have an arm.

836
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Well, to be honest with you, if my arm was up like this, wouldn't I be missing that arm too?

837
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

838
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Let's try it out.

839
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000
Let's see what we can do.

840
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Now I'm going to stand here.

841
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Get up behind me with that IR illuminator.

842
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
All right, here we go.

843
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Yeah, you've already got my shadow.

844
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Yeah, I want you to see this video.

845
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Come here.

846
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,000
Okay.

847
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Now watch.

848
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000
What we did discover investigating this shadow man in that picture is that we could recreate that picture

849
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,000
just by IR shadow, by having a light behind someone who's taking the picture,

850
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
and then actually capturing the shadow and not knowing it, and it's surprising how simple that is.

851
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
And that's the triumph right there.

852
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Any truth we can find on a case, whether it be paranormal or not, that's all we're looking for.

853
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
It's pretty damn close, brother.

854
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Let's head over to Command Central.

855
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000
It's time to wrap.

856
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
I'm thinking it's about that diamond.

857
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
You guys got a lot of stuff to analyze.

858
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,000
How do you want to calculate the hours?

859
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
All right, let's break it down.

860
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Let's get out of here.

861
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000
All right, let's do it.

862
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Let's do it.

863
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
I'm sort of disappointed.

864
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
I really didn't get any vibes or anything down here.

865
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,000
I think it's been a good investigation, and I really do hope we find something that's for sure.

866
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000
We really appreciate you having us out here, Mike.

867
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Hey, you guys have been great.

868
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
What we're going to do from here is go over the evidence over the next couple of days.

869
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
We'll give you a call.

870
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
We'll come sit down and show you what we caught, what we didn't catch.

871
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Okay.

872
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Sounds great.

873
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
All right.

874
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000
You have a good night.

875
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Okay.

876
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000
You too, Mike.

877
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Yep, you too.

878
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000
And we're certainly hoping that TAPS will find something that will solve the mystery once

879
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000
and for all for us, because we really want to know what's going on here, and we want

880
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
to have documented proof.

881
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Reviewing the evidence is a very long, tedious process.

882
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
It takes as long to review as you investigate it.

883
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,000
If you have your equipment running for 12 hours, you have to review all that 12 hours

884
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
and usually have multiple sets of equipment.

885
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,000
You have your audio, video, and still photography, so you have a lot of stuff to review.

886
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
How come you're not wearing red, Tango?

887
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,000
I don't have a red shirt.

888
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000
You guys always match, too.

889
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
You guys always match in the shirts.

890
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000
All I know is I came down and you handed on, and it seems to happen quite often.

891
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Really?

892
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
And I've never peeked at you.

893
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000
I don't know how.

894
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000
You either.

895
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000
You came down and you had the same shirt I had on.

896
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000
I was here first.

897
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000
Tango, don't start trouble.

898
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000
I'm not starting trouble.

899
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Let's talk more work.

900
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000
While we analyze the evidence, Don is meeting with the former assistant, Warden,

901
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
to see if he can confirm any of the stories or the hauntings that we've heard about.

902
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Oh, dude.

903
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Hey, check us out, man.

904
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Check us out.

905
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Hey, guys.

906
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000
What's going on, man?

907
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000
What do we got?

908
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Anything?

909
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Nothing hardcore, no solid evidence in any of our footage or any of our audio.

910
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Well, I'm trying to think of what people experienced while we were there.

911
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Dustin had that mist above him.

912
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,000
He claimed to see a mist.

913
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,000
We had heard some banging.

914
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,000
It almost sounded like footsteps there a few times from a cell blocks above us.

915
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,000
And what?

916
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Anybody here?

917
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Someone heard whispering, right?

918
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Yeah, I did with Dustin when we were setting up the three cameras and maximum security,

919
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000
but we didn't hear anything after that.

920
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000
We can catch anything on audio.

921
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Nothing.

922
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000
All right, guys.

923
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000
All right, guys.

924
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Thanks.

925
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000
Mike, it's good to see you again.

926
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000
We came in under the premises of the reports of activity that had been going on here.

927
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
We heard from people witnessing shadows, audible noises, a lot of activity.

928
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
When we come into a place, we're coming in to try to dismiss claims of paranormal activity

929
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,000
with the hope that anything we catch helps more solidify the actual activity going on.

930
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
A couple of my crew members heard whispers.

931
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
It sounded like people shuffling.

932
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Me and Grant were in maximum.

933
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
It sounded like somebody was walking above us.

934
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
We also decided to head down to the hole.

935
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,000
And upon sitting in that room, you feel like somebody's pushing your head and you feel

936
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
a serious weight on your head, a pressure.

937
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Usually, if you start feeling that, afterwards, you know, something's going to happen.

938
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
And we were getting waiting for something to happen and nothing happened, unfortunately.

939
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Hauntings don't work on Q. Bottom line.

940
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,000
We were presented with that image of the shadow man in front of the cafeteria door.

941
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,000
What we like to try to do is recreate the things and try to see if we can actually match it up.

942
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000
So if you want, we can take a walk and we can illustrate how that all works.

943
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Sure, that'd be great.

944
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000
All right, Mike.

945
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Yeah, this is the area where it all goes down.

946
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Pretty much, Grant would stand there.

947
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000
I would stand here.

948
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,000
And if I had a camera and he had a camera, I.R.'s, his camera would cast my shadow.

949
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,000
And if I snapped the picture, I'd get a total image of myself holding a camcorder just like this,

950
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:25,000
which would make my left arm appear gone, which would really be my right arm holding a camera.

951
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
See, and I wouldn't see anything paranormal about it because from my point of view, I see J.

952
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
and I can't see the shadow behind him.

953
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000
So nobody saw it.

954
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
So it's just one of many possibilities.

955
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000
That makes sense.

956
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
We really appreciate you having us here.

957
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,000
You guys have been wonderful.

958
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Hey, we were glad to have you and we're really glad that you were here and explained so much to us.

959
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Well, you have yourself a good day.

960
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Certainly will.

961
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
I'm sure I can.

962
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000
All right, Mike.

963
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Let's go.

964
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Hey, thanks a lot, guys.

965
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,000
The evidence that Jason and Grant showed me was very useful and I will definitely pass that on to everybody.

966
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Regardless of everything that I've heard, we cannot discount the voices that have been heard.

967
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,000
And even though they didn't pick up anything on their recorders, I still feel this place is haunted.

968
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
I don't think enough people know about that IR Shadow, man.

969
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
That fools a lot of people.

970
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
More and more people are learning about it.

971
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Just let one more know.

972
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000
That's it.

973
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Let's just get home now.

974
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Time to get home.

975
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,000
On the next episode of Ghost Hunters, Jason and Grant are on the trail of a mysterious month.

976
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000
What?

977
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Hold on, hold on.

978
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000
What was it?

979
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,000
I don't know.

980
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
What was it?

981
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Is somebody in here?

982
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
No.

983
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Then Taps explores a Victorian mansion with a bizarre history of unexplained activity.

984
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000
We got in male sports, we're calling out women's names.

985
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000
What?

986
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
I can get it on the back of my leg.

987
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,000
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